Legislature(2001 - 2002)

02/27/2002 09:08 AM Senate FIN

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                              MINUTES                                                                                         
                     SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                 
                         February 27, 2002                                                                                    
                              9:08 AM                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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SFC-02 # 19,  Side A                                                                                                            
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CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Pete  Kelly convened the meeting at approximately  9:08 AM.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dave Donley, Co-Chair                                                                                                   
Senator Pete Kelly, Co-Chair                                                                                                    
Senator Jerry Ward, Vice Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Lyda Green                                                                                                              
Senator Gary  Wilken                                                                                                            
Senator Lyman Hoffman                                                                                                           
Senator Donny  Olson                                                                                                            
Senator Loren  Leman                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Also  Attending:  BOB POE.  Executive  Director,  Alaska  Industrial                                                          
Development  &  Export   Authority  and  Alaska  Energy   Authority,                                                            
Department  of Community  and Economic Development;  KAREN  REHFELD,                                                            
Director, Education  Support Services,  Department of Education  and                                                            
Early Development;  YVONNE CHASE, Deputy Commissioner,  Division of;                                                            
ALISON ELGEE,  Deputy Commissioner,  Department  of Administration;                                                             
DAN  SPENCER,   Director,  Division   of  Administrative   Services,                                                            
Department  of  Administration;  JEFF  BUSH,  Deputy  Commissioner,                                                             
Department  of  Community  and  Economic  Development;  TOM  LAWSON,                                                            
Director,  Division   of  Administrative  Services,   Department  of                                                            
Community  and Economic  Development; BOB  POE, Executive  Director,                                                            
Alaska Industrial  Development & Export Authority  and Alaska Energy                                                            
Authority                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Attending via Teleconference:                                                                                                 
There were no teleconference participants.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY INFORMATION                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SB 247-REAPPROPRIATIONS & CAPITAL APPROPRIATIONS                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The   Committee    heard   testimony   from   the   Department    of                                                            
Administration,  the Department of Education and Early  Development,                                                            
and the Department  of Community and Economic Development.  The bill                                                            
was held in Committee.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     SENATE BILL NO. 247                                                                                                        
     "An  Act making capital  appropriations  and reappropriations,                                                             
     and capitalizing  funds; making  appropriations under  art. IX,                                                            
     sec.  17(c), Constitution  of  the State  of  Alaska, from  the                                                            
     constitutional   budget reserve  fund;  and  providing  for  an                                                            
     effective date."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
This  is the Second  hearing  for this  bill in  the Senate  Finance                                                            
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Department of Education and Early Development                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Yuut Elitnaurviat People's Learning Center - Phase 1                                                                       
     $ 900,000 general funds                                                                                                    
     Reference No.: 36594                                                                                                       
     Project Type: Construction                                                                                                 
     Category: Education                                                                                                        
     Location: Bethel                                                                                                           
     Election District: Bethel, Dillingham                                                                                      
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2002 - 06/30/2007                                                                           
     The Yuut  Elitnaurviat, People's Learning Center,  in Bethel is                                                            
     requesting  state  support  for construction  of  a  vocational                                                            
     training  center  to serve  the Yukon-Kuskokwim  Delta  Region.                                                            
     Phase  1  construction  is  estimated  to  cost  $8.9  million.                                                            
     Various  funding partners, include  the Department of  Interior                                                            
     ($1.0  million) and the USDA-Rural  Development ($3.0  million)                                                            
     Phased project                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
KAREN REHFELD,  Director, Education Support Services,  Department of                                                            
Education and  Early Development, explained that this  request would                                                            
fund a comprehensive training  program. She stated this would be the                                                            
first phase  of a three-year $12.2  project, of which approximately                                                             
$7 million  would be  funded by  regional and  federal sources.  She                                                            
noted that  Phase 1 would provide  boarding and training  facilities                                                            
for  82 students,  and  upon completion  of  all three  phases,  250                                                            
students  would  be  served.  She  stated  that  training   programs                                                            
conducted at the facility  would be determined by industry needs and                                                            
could include  construction, early childhood education,  and health,                                                            
aviation  transportation,   technology  and  business  careers.  She                                                            
stated that the  facility's operating costs would  be assumed by the                                                            
current   regional   partners   including:   the   regional   Native                                                            
Corporation,  area  school  districts, the  Association  of  Village                                                            
Council Presidents, and health associations.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken  asked what  the City of Bethel  is doing to  support                                                            
the project.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Kelly stated  that the City  is contributing  the land  on                                                            
which the facility would be built.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman informed  the  Committee  that the  land Bethel  is                                                            
contributing is valued at $1.5 million.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Rehfeld  stated  that  the  Bethel   region  has  committed  to                                                            
providing   in-kind   support  of   approximately   $2  million   in                                                            
construction management and administrative support.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green  asked if a statewide  plan exists for vocational  and                                                            
technical learning centers of this magnitude.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Rehfeld  stated that  the  Alaska  Human  Resources  Investment                                                            
Council (AHRIC) is developing a statewide training plan.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Green inquired  if this project  is included  in the  AHRIC                                                            
plan.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Rehfeld affirmed it is.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Head Start Health and Safety Repairs                                                                                       
     $500,000 ACPE Dividends                                                                                                    
     Reference No.: 32628                                                                                                       
     Project Type: Renewal and Replacement                                                                                      
     Category: Health/Safety                                                                                                    
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2001 - 06/30/2005                                                                           
     This project  is requested to  assist Head Start facilities  in                                                            
     meeting health  and safety standards. Types of  projects funded                                                            
     would   include   replacing   windows,  stoves,   sinks,   fire                                                            
     extinguishers, sprinkler  systems, carpets, wiring, insulation,                                                            
     etc.                                                                                                                       
     On-going Project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Rehfeld  informed the Committee  that this project would  assist                                                            
Head Start  programs  that operate  in 100 Statewide  locations,  to                                                            
comply  with federal  and  State  health  and safety  standards,  by                                                            
replacing and  upgrading such facility items as carpets  in addition                                                            
to purchasing playground  equipment and transportation vehicles. She                                                            
noted  this is  an annual  request  and addresses  a  list of  needs                                                            
identified by Head Start.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Green  commented  that  the  federally  funded  Head  Start                                                            
program  has expanded  its  services  to provide  before-school  and                                                            
after-school   childcare  in   some  communities.   She  asked   the                                                            
Department  whether private  individuals or  entities which  provide                                                            
similar  services, but  who do  not receive  federal funding,  might                                                            
qualify for State grant monies to assist their operations.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
YVONNE CHASE,  Deputy Commissioner,  Division of Early Development,                                                             
Department  of Education and Early  Development, remarked  that this                                                            
request is specifically  for Head Start programs; however, there are                                                            
funding  mechanisms being  developed  by the State  to assist  other                                                            
entities in complying with  health and safety measures. She affirmed                                                            
that the Department  intends to develop assistance  programs of this                                                            
sort.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green voiced concern  that as Head Start services expand, it                                                            
presents  "unfair  competition"  to private  daycare  and  childcare                                                            
providers. She inquired  whether the State could develop programs to                                                            
assist private or non-profit childcare providers.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Chase responded  that it is possible,  provided the Legislature                                                             
supports funding for these efforts.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Department of Administration                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
DAN  SPENCER,   Director,  Division   of  Administrative   Services,                                                            
Department  of  Administration   informed  the  Committee  that  the                                                            
Department has identified  the funding requests in this presentation                                                            
as high priority, essential projects.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Payroll and Accounting System Replacement Analysis                                                                         
     $600,000 general funds                                                                                                     
     Reference No.: 35790                                                                                                       
     Project Type: Planning                                                                                                     
     Category: General Government                                                                                               
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2002 - 06/30/2004                                                                           
     Funding   will  be  used  to  hire  a  consultant   to  provide                                                            
     replacement analysis  and planning for the statewide accounting                                                            
     and payroll  systems (AKSAS &  AKPAY) currently managed  by the                                                            
     Division  of Finance.  The level  of funding  included in  this                                                            
     request  is an  estimate  and may  not provide  for a  complete                                                            
     analysis.                                                                                                                  
     One-time project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer stated this  request would fund a study to determine the                                                            
appropriate design  and cost of a new accounting and  payroll system                                                            
to  replace  the  antiquated  systems  used  since  1985  and  1990,                                                            
respectfully. He stressed  that the systems' old technology does not                                                            
integrate  well with  newer systems  the  State uses,  and that  the                                                            
payroll system, in particular,  must be replaced as the manufacturer                                                            
is phasing out support for that program.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Driver License Testing Machines                                                                                            
     $300,000 general funds                                                                                                     
     Reference No.: 35823                                                                                                       
     Project Type: Equipment                                                                                                    
     Category: Public Protection                                                                                                
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2002 - 06/30/2004                                                                           
     These  funds will be  used to replace  existing malfunctioning                                                             
     and nonfunctioning  testing machines  in locations where  there                                                            
     are  no machines  or where the  number of  working machines  is                                                            
     insufficient.  37,000 tests  are given  at 12 DMV locations  in                                                            
     Alaska. To  meet this volume, 69 testing machines,  15 Examiner                                                            
     Monitor   Consoles,  and  1  network  management   console  are                                                            
     required.  Funding  at this  level will  not  be sufficient  to                                                            
     purchase all needed equipment.                                                                                             
     One-time project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer stated  that the current inventory of  machines used for                                                            
administering  the State's  written  driver's license  tests are  12                                                            
years  old, replacement  parts  are  no longer  available,  and  the                                                            
remaining  functioning  machines require  constant  maintenance.  He                                                            
stated  that upgrading  this  system would  result  in lowering  the                                                            
Department's operating costs and increasing efficiency.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Ward inquired  where the  majority of  the 37,000  driver's                                                            
tests are administered each year.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Spencer  responded  that  the  Department   would  supply  that                                                            
information to the Committee.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken  asked whether this could be a phased  project rather                                                            
than a one-time project.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer affirmed it could.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson asked if 37,000 tests are administered annually.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Spencer responded  that  this  number might  be  an average  of                                                            
several years.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Labor Contract Negotiations                                                                                                
     $461,000 general funds                                                                                                     
     Reference No.: 35796                                                                                                       
     Project Type: Planning                                                                                                     
     Category: General Government                                                                                               
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2002 - 06/30/2004                                                                           
     All  twelve labor  contracts expire  June 30,  2003. The  Labor                                                            
     Relations  operating budget does  not include funding  for most                                                            
     labor  contracts   negotiating  costs.  This   CIP  request  is                                                            
     designated  to cover unfounded costs of this  negotiation cycle                                                            
     regardless of timing.                                                                                                      
     One-time project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
ALLISON ELGEE,  Deputy Commissioner,  Department of Administration,                                                             
emphasized  that all  twelve of  the State's  labor contracts  would                                                            
expire by June 30, 2003.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer  reminded the  Committee that  in FY99, the Legislature                                                             
approved  a $310,000 two-year  funding request  to address  expiring                                                            
labor contracts.  He conveyed that the negotiation  process involves                                                            
a large amount of time, personnel, and travel.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Kelly expressed  that  it is  "unusual" for  this type  of                                                            
request to be submitted in the capital budget.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Spencer  responded  that  "the  nature  of  the  request;"  the                                                            
unpredictability  of  the length  of  time the  negotiation  process                                                            
might  entail, as  well as  the time  involved in  finalizing  those                                                            
negotiated  agreements, justify  its being  included in the  capital                                                            
budget.  He summarized  that the  negotiation  process historically                                                             
encompasses more than one fiscal year.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Donley  remarked that consideration should  be given to the                                                            
fact  that  a new  Administration   would be  in  place  before  the                                                            
contracts  expire,  and that  the new  Administration  might have  a                                                            
different  perspective on  the negotiations  than those held  by the                                                            
current Administration.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Elgee commented  that  historically,  labor  negotiations  have                                                            
extended into  more than one fiscal  year, and furthermore,  if this                                                            
funding were  delayed, the  new Administration  would be faced  with                                                            
expiring contracts in its  first term as well as a "tight" timeframe                                                            
in obtaining legislative approval for the contracts.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Donley  asked, "what guarantee" is provided  to ensure that                                                            
labor   contract   negotiation   funding    appropriated   to   this                                                            
Administration,  would  be available  for the  continuance of  those                                                            
negotiations in the next Administration.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer asserted  that the Department has "no  intent to expend"                                                            
all  the   appropriation   during   the  remaining   term  of   this                                                            
Administration,  and rather that the specific nature  of the request                                                            
dictates   timeframes   and  expenses.   He  reiterated   that   the                                                            
negotiation  process  could  be  lengthy  and  the  money  would  be                                                            
expected to cover more than one fiscal year.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Kelly  asked  for  information   about  the  role  of  the                                                            
"negotiation coordinator" in the labor contract process.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Spencer  responded  that  the  negotiator  is  the  person  who                                                            
oversees each  bargaining unit's negotiating team.  He stressed that                                                            
since there are  twelve contracts to be negotiated,  this would be a                                                            
full-time position.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly  reiterated that this  request is unusual  to include                                                            
in the capital budget.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Elgee  recounted  that  in  prior  years,   the  State's  labor                                                            
contracts  expired  at random  dates. She  stated  that the  current                                                            
situation  whereby all  the contracts  expire  at approximately  the                                                            
same  time  has resulted  in  numerous  savings  to the  State,  but                                                            
stressed that the process "is still a lengthy one."                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman  asked  whether  the  funding  request  for  travel                                                            
expenses  includes  expenses  of the  employee  representatives'  in                                                            
addition   to  the  Department   of  Administration's   negotiation                                                             
personnel's' expenses.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Elgee  clarified  that the  State covers  the  expenses for  the                                                            
Department's   negotiating   team,  but  not   for  the   employees'                                                            
representatives.  She stated that the Department would  clarify what                                                            
other  expenses have  historically  been funded  in the negotiation                                                             
process.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Pioneers' Home Emergency Repair and Maintenance                                                                            
     $800,000 general funds                                                                                                     
     Reference No.: 35817                                                                                                       
     Project Type: Deferred Maintenance                                                                                         
     Category: Health/Safety                                                                                                    
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2002 - 06/30/2004                                                                           
     Funding is  requested or Fire and Life Safety  problems and for                                                            
     continued  maintenance   and  structural  repairs  of  the  six                                                            
     Pioneers' Homes.                                                                                                           
     On-going Project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer  stated that this annual  funding request would  provide                                                            
for  emergency maintenance  needs  such  as bursting  pipes,  broken                                                            
boilers, and  leaking roofs. He disclosed  that separate  funding of                                                            
projects  on the  Pioneer  Homes' deferred  maintenance  list  would                                                            
positively impact the level of this annual funding request.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     License Plates, Tabs and Manuals                                                                                           
     $281,000 general funds                                                                                                     
     Reference No.: 35826                                                                                                       
     Project Type: Renewal and Replacement                                                                                      
     Category: Public Protection                                                                                                
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2002 - 06/30/2004                                                                           
     This  project  has  two separate  pieces.  The  first  provides                                                            
     $216,000  for  the  purchase  of license  plates  and  tabs  to                                                            
     maintain   statewide  stockage   levels  necessary   for  their                                                            
     required  continued issuance.  The Division  is required  by AS                                                            
     28.10.161  to issue  plates and  tabs and cannot  run out.  The                                                            
     remaining  $65,000 provides for  the purchase of the  different                                                            
     types of  driver manuals and law books which  must be available                                                            
     at all DMV locations.                                                                                                      
     On-going project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer clarified  that this request is being  submitted through                                                            
the  capital budget  because  funding needs  might  extend beyond  a                                                            
single fiscal  year. He explained  that demands  on the Division  of                                                            
Motor  Vehicles'  inventory  are  sporadic  and  unpredictable,  but                                                            
stressed that sufficient quantities must be available.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Emergency  Maintenance  Projects  for  Facilities  Outside  the                                                            
     Public Building Fund.                                                                                                      
     $800,000 general funds                                                                                                     
     Reference No.: 35802                                                                                                       
     Project Type: Deferred Maintenance                                                                                         
     Category: General Government                                                                                               
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2002 - 06/30/2005                                                                           
     Funding  will be  used to  begin to  fix some  of the  facility                                                            
     maintenance  problems that are  of critical concern  now in the                                                            
     buildings  comprising the Non  Public Building Fund  facilities                                                            
     group  managed by DOA.  These buildings  are: the State  Museum                                                            
     and  Annex in  Juneau; the  Diamond Courthouse  in Juneau;  the                                                            
                                          rd                                                                                    
     Governor's  House  in  Juneau;  the 3   Floor  of  the  Capitol                                                            
     Building;  the Juneau  Subport Building;  and the Archives  and                                                            
     Records Center in Juneau.                                                                                                  
     Of immediate concern  are leaking roofs, curtain walls that are                                                            
     no  longer  water resistant,  bursting  domestic  water  supply                                                            
     lines, inoperable  HVAC systems, foundation failures, hazardous                                                            
     material abatement,  and unsafe, inefficient boiler and heating                                                            
     systems.                                                                                                                   
     On-going project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer  explained  that the  Department  of Transportation  and                                                            
Public Facilities  recently transferred  control of some  facilities                                                            
in Juneau to the Department  of Administration. He stated that these                                                            
facilities  are  not maintained  under  the  auspice of  the  Public                                                            
Building  Fund,  and  until  a  deferred  maintenance  procedure  is                                                            
established  for those  facilities, there  is a  need for monies  to                                                            
handle  emergency   repairs.  He   stated  that  monies   for  these                                                            
buildings'  maintenance   needs  were  previously  included  in  the                                                            
Department of Transportation and Public Facilities' budget.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Leman  asked why responsibility  for the Third Floor  of the                                                            
Capitol Building was included in this transfer.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Spencer  voiced  that  the  Department   of Administration   is                                                            
responsible  for  the  Third  Floor  of the  Capitol  as  it  houses                                                            
Executive   Branch  offices.   He   continued   that  when   general                                                            
maintenance  is conducted  on the Capitol  Building, the  Department                                                            
contributes a percentage of the cost.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Elgee stated  that the Department  is primarily responsible  for                                                            
any plumbing and wiring expenses required on the Third Floor.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Leman  asked  what  other agency  is  responsible  for  the                                                            
Capitol Building's maintenance                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Elgee stated that the  Legislative Affairs Agency is responsible                                                            
for the remainder of the building.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Adult Day Facility Modifications                                                                                           
     $250,000 general funds/Mental Health                                                                                       
     Reference No.: 35806                                                                                                       
     Project Type: Renewal and Replacement                                                                                      
     Category: Housing/Social Services                                                                                          
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2002 - 06/30/2004                                                                           
     Twelve  Adult   Day  Facilities  need  modifications   to  meet                                                            
     standards  that  include  health  and  safety  issues  and  ADA                                                            
     accessibility requirements.  Modifications will more fully meet                                                            
     the  needs  of  clients  who  are  physically  and cognitively                                                             
     impaired. These will  include recommendations for modifications                                                            
     to lighting,  flooring, bathroom,  dining, and activity  areas.                                                            
     This will  benefit clients who  are physically and cognitively                                                             
     impaired,  allowing  them to  be more independent,  reduce  the                                                            
     risk of  injuries from falls,  and enhance their well-being  by                                                            
     decreasing  confusion  for  the  clients  who  are cognitively                                                             
     impaired.                                                                                                                  
     Mental Health Bill                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Elgee stated  this request would fund an on-going  contract with                                                            
a facilities  architect,  who specializes  in "dementia design,"  to                                                            
address  adult  facility needs  throughout  the  State  and to  make                                                            
recommendations  to better serve the  needs of those users  in terms                                                            
of upgrades to the facility and programs being offered.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Fixed Asset Accounting System                                                                                              
     $255,000                                                                                                                   
          $85,000 general funds                                                                                                 
          $85,000 Info Svc                                                                                                      
          $85,000 Public Bldg                                                                                                   
     Reference No.: 35791                                                                                                       
     Project Type: Information Systems                                                                                          
     Category: General Government                                                                                               
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2002 - 06/30/2004                                                                           
     The  State needs a  functional fixed  asset accounting  system.                                                            
     The  antiquated mainframe  system operated  by the Division  of                                                            
     General Services  does not provide accountability  over assets,                                                            
     nor does  it maintain the information necessary  to prepare the                                                            
     State's  financial  statements  in  accordance  with  generally                                                            
     accepted  accounting   principles  (GAAP)  as  required  by  AS                                                            
     37.05.150.                                                                                                                 
     Funding  will be used  for professional  services for  software                                                            
     analysis,   software  purchases   and  installation   and  some                                                            
     building appraisal work.                                                                                                   
     One time project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Elgee stated that this  request addresses the current accounting                                                            
system's  inability  to  properly  account  for  fixed  assets.  She                                                            
informed  the Committee  that  this concern  was  identified by  the                                                            
Division of  Legislative Budget and  Audit several years  prior, and                                                            
that new federal  accounting regulations  require that fixed  assets                                                            
must "first  be recognized at a cost  basis and then depreciated  on                                                            
financial statements,"  as opposed to the current system's method of                                                            
listing  replacement  value. She  reminded  the Committee  that  the                                                            
State  could not provide  the necessary  information  without  a new                                                            
fixed  asset accounting  system; therefore,  an  adjustment must  be                                                            
made annually to account for the "audit exception."                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Leman  asked whether  such  information  as  the  age of  a                                                            
building  as well as  any modifications  it has  undergone would  be                                                            
required to develop a cost basis for that fixed asset.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Elgee replied that  the history of the building would need to be                                                            
reconstructed to determine the cost basis.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Leman  commented that this  is a big project as some  of the                                                            
State's buildings are "quite old."                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Elgee concurred.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Public Defender Integrated Computer System                                                                                 
     $175,000 general funds                                                                                                     
     Reference no.: 35827                                                                                                       
     Project Type: Planning                                                                                                     
     Category: Law and Justice                                                                                                  
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2002 - 06/30/2005                                                                           
     The Public Defender  Agency needs to become integrated with the                                                            
     technology  and  systems of  the other  state  agencies in  the                                                            
     criminal   justice   process.   The  sharing   of  information                                                             
     electronically   will  greatly  improve  the  operations  of  a                                                            
     cumbersome,  information-laden   system.  The  Public  Defender                                                            
     Agency is the only  agency that will not have access to all the                                                            
     information  readily   available  to  the other  participants.                                                             
     Without such access,  as the rest of the state criminal justice                                                            
     agencies  share  information  and become  more  efficient,  the                                                            
     Public Defender will grind the entire process to a halt.                                                                   
     Phased Project                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer  commented this  is a repeat  request that involves  the                                                            
need to  share pertinent  information  among a  variety of  criminal                                                            
justice systems. He stressed  the importance of upgrading the Public                                                            
Defender  Agency's  (PDA)  computer  abilities  to  align  with  the                                                            
capabilities  of other criminal justice  agencies in order  to allow                                                            
the  PDA  the  ability  to  access  and integrate   information.  He                                                            
emphasized   that   the  PDA's   current   system   undermines   the                                                            
effectiveness of the entire justice system.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken asked whether  the $175,000 indicated in this request                                                            
is the total cost  of the project or for this phase  of the project.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer responded  that the specified amount is  for this phase;                                                            
however, the entire  cost could not be determined  until the project                                                            
began.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken asked for a total cost projection.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Sr. Spencer  anticipated  the entire  project to  cost less than  $1                                                            
million.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Public Facilities Maintenance and Repairs                                                                                  
     $2,500,000 Public Bldg                                                                                                     
     Reference No.: 35803                                                                                                       
     Project Type: Renewal and Replacement                                                                                      
     Category: General Government                                                                                               
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2002 - 07/02/2005                                                                           
     This project  will provide authorization to spend  depreciation                                                            
     funds  collected  through the  facilities  rental rate  charged                                                            
     tenant   agencies.  The  funding   is  used  for  renewal   and                                                            
     replacement  repairs of major building systems.  These projects                                                            
     replace worn-out  major building components and  either replace                                                            
     or retrofit  obsolete or inefficient building  systems in order                                                            
     to  maintain  or extend  the  useful life  of the  building  or                                                            
     facility.                                                                                                                  
     Facilities  included are:  the Robert  B. Atwood Building;  the                                                            
     Fairbanks  Regional Office  Building;  the Juneau State  Office                                                            
     Building;  the Alaska Office  Building; the Juneau Court  Plaza                                                            
     Building;  the Juneau  Community Building;  the Douglas  Island                                                            
     Building; and the Juneau Public Safety Building.                                                                           
     On-going project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer stated that  this request would authorize the Department                                                            
to  leverage   non-general   fund  public   building  fund   monies,                                                            
specifically those collected  from depreciation charges to "occupant                                                            
agency"   tenants,  to   provide  for  operating   costs,   on-going                                                            
maintenance,  and depreciation  costs  to the  buildings. He  stated                                                            
that this  involves  extensive projects  such  as roof replacements                                                             
that might  extend beyond  a single fiscal  year because work  could                                                            
not begin until the spring and summer season.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Senior Services Data Integration Project - Phase 2                                                                         
     $238,000 MHTAAR                                                                                                            
     Reference No.: 35816                                                                                                       
     Project Type: Information Systems                                                                                          
     Category: Housing/Social Services                                                                                          
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2002 - 06/30/2004                                                                           
     The Division  of Senior Services  serves clients and  providers                                                            
     in multiple programs.  Information should be shared by programs                                                            
     for  better client and  provider service,  for faster  response                                                            
     times, and for the  electronic transfer of information. DSS and                                                            
     the  Alaska  Commission on  Aging  have selected  a  SAMS/OMNIA                                                            
     database  and begun the integration  of beneficiary  data. This                                                            
     request  represents the amount  necessary to complete  the data                                                            
     management integration effort.                                                                                             
     Phased project                                                                                                             
     Mental Health Bill                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Elgee stated  that this is the final phase of  a project, funded                                                            
by Mental Health Trust  Receipts, to install a complete new computer                                                            
system that  would provide  an internal recordkeeping  system  and a                                                            
providers' interface system.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska Gas Development Study                                                                                               
     $500,000 AOGCC Rcpt                                                                                                        
     Reference No.: 35792                                                                                                       
     Project Type: Planning                                                                                                     
     Category: Natural Resources                                                                                                
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2002 - 06/30/2004                                                                           
     The AOGCC needs to  evaluate the conservation issues associated                                                            
     with gas  development in Alaska from areas such  as Prudhoe Bay                                                            
     Unit, Point  Thompson Unit, The North Slope Foothills,  and the                                                            
     numerous  prospects  for  Coalbed  Methane  (CBM).  The  issues                                                            
     include what  impact gas development will have  on the recovery                                                            
     of liquid  hydrocarbons, appropriate development  practices for                                                            
     new fields  and how to manage CBM development.  CBM development                                                            
     is technologically  different than conventional gas development                                                            
     and is  the subject of much debate  in the continental  US. The                                                            
     AOGCC does not have the resources to conduct this study.                                                                   
     One-time project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Spencer stated that this request asks for authorization to                                                                  
expend industry-generated receipts to undertake a study on gas                                                                  
development in the State.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Leman voiced support for the project and urged the                                                                      
Committee to approve it.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Electronic Permitting Initiative                                                                                           
     $500,000 AOGCC rcpt                                                                                                        
     Reference No.: 35793                                                                                                       
     Project Type: Information Systems                                                                                          
     Category: Natural Resources                                                                                                
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2002 - 06/30/2005                                                                           
     The  AOGCC seeks to  develop and implement  a highly secure  e-                                                            
     commerce/e-permitting  system  for the  handling of  electronic                                                            
     data. The  Oil and Gas Conservation Act requires  all operators                                                            
     of oil and gas wells  to provide significant amounts of data to                                                            
     the  AOGCC.   The  majority  of  this  information   is  highly                                                            
     confidential  for at least two  years. The regulated  community                                                            
     (oil  &  gas  companies)  manages  their date  electronically.                                                             
     However,  because  the  AOGCC  is not  set  up to  receive  the                                                            
     information in a secure  manner, the companies convert the data                                                            
     to  hard copy and  hand-deliver  it to the  AOGCC resulting  in                                                            
     added workload for  both the regulated community and the AOGCC.                                                            
     One-time project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer  informed the  Committee that  this project would  allow                                                            
confidential  information  to be  transmitted in  electronic  format                                                            
rather than the  current "extensive paper transferal"  to the Alaska                                                            
Oil and  Gas Conservation  Commission  (AOGCC),  thereby  positively                                                            
"facilitating"   the  flow   of  information.   He  mentioned   that                                                            
additional  non-general  fund receipts  funding  might be  required;                                                            
however, the intent would  be to implement the system as efficiently                                                            
as possible.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Leman  stressed   the  importance  of  upgrading   to  this                                                            
"firewall" system,  as it should result in lowering  operating costs                                                            
in  other  State   agencies  such  as  the  Department   of  Natural                                                            
Resources.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Combined Retirement Benefits Calculation System                                                                            
     $436,000                                                                                                                   
          $1,200 Jud Retire                                                                                                     
          $298,400 P/E Retire                                                                                                   
          $136,400 Teach Ret                                                                                                    
     Reference No.: 35819                                                                                                       
     Project Type: Information Systems                                                                                          
     Category: General Government                                                                                               
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2002 - 06/30/2004                                                                           
     Funds  will  be used  for  consulting  services  for  analyses,                                                            
     design  and programming of business  software that will  be the                                                            
     Benefits  Calculator. In addition,  it would cover the  cost of                                                            
     any  necessary hardware.  Specific project  tasks will  include                                                            
     Software   Requirements   Specification,   Detail  design   and                                                            
     programming; data conversion; testing; and implementation.                                                                 
     One-time project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Elgee  stated  that  currently,  State   personnel  access  the                                                            
Division of Retirement  and Benefits retirement benefits information                                                            
system  through the  use of high  maintenance and  difficult  to use                                                            
calculators.  She  continued  that  this  funding  would  allow  the                                                            
Department  to replace these limited-use  calculators with  machines                                                            
that would  more efficiently  communicate  with modernized  computer                                                            
programs and provide more expansive and reliable information.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Information Technology Group Equipment Replacement                                                                         
     $5,904,400 Info Svc                                                                                                        
     Reference No.: 35787                                                                                                       
     Project Type: Information Systems                                                                                          
     Category: General Government                                                                                               
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2002 - 06/30/2007                                                                           
     Funding will be used to purchase the highest priority                                                                      
     equipment, including hardware and software, to meet                                                                        
     anticipated customer demand.                                                                                               
     On-going project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer  noted that this annual  request seeks authorization  to                                                            
expend "charge-back  fund"  monies garnered  from users, to  replace                                                            
equipment  as  "it  breaks,  wears out,  or  becomes  obsolete."  He                                                            
explained that the items  identified in the request are presented in                                                            
a prioritized  order; however, "might  have to be re-prioritized  if                                                            
something else breaks."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wilken asked  what affect  the  State's telecommunications                                                             
agreement  with Alaska  Communications  Systems  (ACS)  has on  this                                                            
annual request.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer  responded that currently  this project is not  impacted                                                            
by that agreement;  however, the ACS project would  eventually allow                                                            
for the  elimination of this  request, as  ACS would assume  several                                                            
components of maintaining  the State's telecommunications operation.                                                            
He  informed  the  Committee  that  in the  current  year,  ACS  has                                                            
invested   "in   excess   of   $20   million"   into   the   State's                                                            
telecommunications  system,  which otherwise,  the State would  have                                                            
been expected  to invest. He stated that ultimately  the State would                                                            
receive better service in addition to the economic savings.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wilken, noting  that the  back-up material  indicates  that                                                            
this funding  request would increase  over time from the  current $6                                                            
million to $7 million,  asked whether this amount would be higher if                                                            
the agreement with ACS were not in place.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer responded that  this particular request is primarily for                                                            
computers;  therefore, no  savings would be  realized since  the ACS                                                            
agreement pertains  primarily to other telecommunication  components                                                            
of the system.  He noted that ACS would be assisting  the Department                                                            
in determining a more efficient  and effective means for maintaining                                                            
telecommunications   sites   for  which  the   State  would   retain                                                            
responsibility.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken,  referring to page 33 of the backup  material, asked                                                            
whether  the  $2.76 million  slated  for  satellite  projects  would                                                            
continue being  an on-going responsibility of the  State even though                                                            
ACS would utilize that system.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer  affirmed that  the State currently  owns and  maintains                                                            
the  satellite system.  He  informed the  Committee  that the  $2.76                                                            
million  would  be used  to  replace  lights  on towers,  assist  in                                                            
keeping  generators  at  the  tower  sites  functioning,  and  other                                                            
maintenance needs,  and that expenses of this sort  would remain the                                                            
responsibility   of  the  State.  He  summarized   that  this  is  a                                                            
complicated   situation   and  he   could  provide   more   detailed                                                            
information to the Committee.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator   Wilken  voiced   that   years  earlier,   during   initial                                                            
discussions about  a telecommunications agreement  between the State                                                            
and ACS,  he understood  that maintenance  costs  would be a  shared                                                            
responsibility of both entities.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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Senator  Wilken judged  these early  discussions  to imply that  all                                                            
maintenance expenses would  be transferred to ACS, thereby resulting                                                            
in  a  reduction   of  maintenance   funding  requests  from   State                                                            
departments.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Spencer  supported   the  expectation  that  telecommunication                                                             
requests  from  State  departments  to  pay  for  expenses  such  as                                                            
routers,  would diminish;  however, stated  that the maintenance  of                                                            
satellite sites  is a different component of the telecommunications                                                             
system.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Spencer expressed the  need for the Department of Administration                                                            
to  present  a  thorough  overview  of  the  ACS  agreement  to  the                                                            
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Department of Community and Economic Development                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Electronic Document Imaging, Storage and Retrieval System                                                                  
     $1,125,000 Rcpt Svcs                                                                                                       
     Reference No.: 35664                                                                                                       
     Project Type: Information Systems                                                                                          
     Category: Development                                                                                                      
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2002 - 06/30/2004                                                                           
     This  project will  develop a departmental  document  scanning,                                                            
     storage  and retrieval  system.  This system  will improve  and                                                            
     increase  timely access  to information  by the public,  staff,                                                            
     other  agencies; reduce the amount  of storage space  required,                                                            
     provide for a disaster  recovery system for documents and allow                                                            
     for a more timely  and efficient purging of documents which are                                                            
     no longer required.                                                                                                        
     One-time project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
JEFF  BUSH,  Deputy   Commissioner,  Department  of   Community  and                                                            
Economic Development  noted that the  Division of Insurance  and the                                                            
Division of  Banking, Security and  Corporations would equally  fund                                                            
this  project.  He  stated  that  replacing  hard  copy  files  with                                                            
electronic  documents would  eliminate approximately  2,000  feet of                                                            
hard  copy files  in the  Juneau Division  of Insurance  office.  He                                                            
continued  that  this would  allow  for better  and  quicker  public                                                            
access to documents  via the Internet and would additionally  reduce                                                            
the retrieval  of information  "burden" on  staff for public  record                                                            
requests in addition  to providing needed floor space.  He expressed                                                            
that  these  improved   efficiencies  would  offset   the  projected                                                            
maintenance expenses the new system would incur.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Loan Servicing Software Replacement                                                                                        
     $550,000                                                                                                                   
     Reference No.: 35665                                                                                                       
     Project Type: Information Systems                                                                                          
     Category: Development                                                                                                      
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2002 - 06/30/2004                                                                           
     This  project replaces  the  existing loan  servicing  software                                                            
     Mortgage  Loans Extended (MLX)  currently in use by  the Alaska                                                            
     Division   of  Investments  (ADI),  It  also  adds   additional                                                            
     functionality  not  presently  available  in the  area of  loan                                                            
     origination   (application  tracking,  document   creation  and                                                            
     management).                                                                                                               
     One-time project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bush stated  that the current system was purchased  in the early                                                            
1980's,  last  upgraded  in  1984,   and  is "antiqued   by  today's                                                            
standards."  He stated that  the development  of a new system  would                                                            
provide  better access  to account  information,  would provide  for                                                            
more efficient  new loan processing, and more efficient  tracking of                                                            
loan borrower  information.  He stated  that this  proposal and  the                                                            
accompanying  maintenance  contract  would be  fully  funded by  the                                                            
State  Loan Program,  and  that the  Division of  Investments  would                                                            
absorb any additional labor costs attributed to a new system.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Federal Community Development Grants                                                                                       
     $3,280,000                                                                                                                 
          $3,000,000 Fed Rcpts                                                                                                  
          $ 280,000 G/F Match                                                                                                   
     Reference No.: 33925                                                                                                       
     Project Type: Health and Safety                                                                                            
     Category: Housing/Social Services                                                                                          
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2002 - 06/30/2004                                                                           
     The Department receives  federal funding from several different                                                            
     programs,  including  the  Flood  Mitigation  Assistance  grant                                                            
     program, USDA and  the Denali Commission. This project combines                                                            
     the various  federal project  funding under one appropriation.                                                             
     State Match Required                                                                                                       
     On-going project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bush  noted  that this  is  the  second  consecutive  year  the                                                            
Department  has combined various Alaska  Industrial Development  and                                                            
Export  Authority   (AIDEA)  Federal  Emergency  Management   Agency                                                            
(FEMA), US Department  of Agriculture (USDA), and  Denali Commission                                                            
grant  programs into  one request.  He informed  the Committee  that                                                            
some of the grants  have provided assistance for the  development of                                                            
flood   plain  management   and   flood  mitigation   programs   for                                                            
communities  as well as  providing USDA  mini-grants for  developing                                                            
community   economic  development   strategies   and  new   economic                                                            
activities in non-forest related industries.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bush noted  that these USDA economic programs  have historically                                                            
received  Denali  Commission  funding  assistance  of approximately                                                             
$500,000.  He stated that  several miscellaneous  and the  estimated                                                            
amounts for,  as-of-yet, undetermined  Denali Commission  grants are                                                            
included in this request,  and explained this is a normal occurrence                                                            
as the  amount  of the grants  is never  determined  in advance.  He                                                            
shared that,  historically, federal  receipts for this program  have                                                            
been as high as $6 million.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly  asked the amount of State general  funds required to                                                            
match Denali Commission grant money.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bush responded  that the Denali Commission grants  require a ten                                                            
percent State  match. He continued  that the estimate for  the State                                                            
matching funds is $150,000  as the Denali Commission grants total is                                                            
projected  to be  approximately  $2 million,  of  which $500,000  is                                                            
designated for mini-grants that do not require any State match.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Kelly  specified  that  $150,000  of  the  $280,000  State                                                            
general funds  specified in  this request is  designated as  a match                                                            
for Denali Funds. He voiced  opposition to committing State funds to                                                            
match Denali Commission  funding as the Denali Commission  monies do                                                            
not  come  under  the  auspice  of  the Senate  Finance   Committee;                                                            
therefore the Committee has no "say over them."                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Kelly continued  that  the  Denali Commission  has  voiced                                                            
concern that  its' funding may be  "used to supplant" State  general                                                            
funds. Co-Chair  Kelly voiced support of treating  Denali Commission                                                            
grant money  entirely as  a separate and  independent entity  as the                                                            
State has no control  over how those funds are distributed,  and he,                                                            
therefore,  does not  support matching  Denali  Commission  projects                                                            
with State general funds.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Leman  concurred with Co-Chair  Kelly's comments  and stated                                                            
that  if  State  general  funds  are  to  be  matched   with  Denali                                                            
Commission  projects  then the  State should  have some  say in  how                                                            
those monies are spent.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Leman noted  this request  states, "the  aggregate  general                                                            
fund match  is 14  percent of the  total;" however,  he pointed  out                                                            
this does not compute with the numbers presented.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bush  clarified  that 14 percent  is incorrect  and is  actually                                                            
between seven and ten percent.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wilken   asked  for  a  list   of  the  Denali   Commission                                                            
communities'  priorities program construction-ready  infrastructure                                                             
projects  that received $4.5  million in FY02  and is referenced  on                                                            
page eight of the backup material.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green asked whether  the Legislature receives a final budget                                                            
summary detailing  the mini-grants  projects funded during  a fiscal                                                            
year.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bush  stated that the  Department would  supply any information                                                             
the Legislature does not currently have.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green  voiced that this request  "basically" authorizes  the                                                            
Department   to   dispense   mini-grant   funding,  as   they   deem                                                            
appropriate.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Kelly clarified  that is  correct, with  the exception  of                                                            
Denali  Commission  projects   over  which  the  Department  has  no                                                            
control.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman  voiced  his concern  that  the  Denali  Commission                                                            
appears to be  "providing a function that the State  probably should                                                            
be  providing"  in  rural  Alaska  such   as building   health  care                                                            
facilities.  He stated that the State  is receiving "benefits"  from                                                            
federal  and Denali  Commission  projects  in rural  Alaska  without                                                            
having  to finance  it, and  he feels that  the State  has been,  in                                                            
effect, ignoring the needs  of Alaska Natives. He stated that one of                                                            
the primary reasons  for the establishment of the  Denali Commission                                                            
was that there were "a lot of unmet needs" in rural Alaska.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator   Hoffman  commented   that  the   State  has  historically                                                             
recognized  the  benefits  it  receives   from  federal  and  Denali                                                            
Commission  projects  by supporting  those  projects  with a  "high"                                                            
matching  fund  percentage.   He  referenced  a  Federal   Emergency                                                            
Management  Agency  (FEMA)  project, listed  on  page  eight of  the                                                            
backup material,  which received  a 25 percent  State match,  and he                                                            
ascertained  that  the ten  percent  match  required by  the  Denali                                                            
Commission  is the "best  buy." He  stated that a  State match  is a                                                            
federal requirement for receiving federal funds.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  questioned whether  the general funds specified  in                                                            
this request are "truly  a match and will it jeopardize the agencies                                                            
that receive these funds from the Denali Commission."                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
TOM  LAWSON,   Director,   Division  of   Administrative   Services,                                                            
Department of Community  and Economic Development responded that the                                                            
Department  could not affirm that  withholding matching funds  would                                                            
place a project  in jeopardy; however, he affirmed  that the federal                                                            
government  does expect, although  "it is not absolutely  mandated,"                                                            
matching funds  from the State. He opined that, "it  comes down to a                                                            
case-by-case  basis of  what the  grant is  for and  what the  grant                                                            
program is."  He stated that the Legislature  has asked the  federal                                                            
government to  establish a "clear stated mandate"  regarding whether                                                            
a State match  is "absolutely required."  He stated he did  not know                                                            
the outcome of that request.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly interjected that "the answer was no."                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Lawson   acknowledged   Co-Chair  Kelly's   comment;   however,                                                            
expressed  that  there are  a  multitude  of federal  programs  that                                                            
benefit the State,  most of which have matching grant  requirements.                                                            
He voiced  that  it is "possibly  to  probably the  case" that  some                                                            
programs  might be  placed  in jeopardy  if  a State  match did  not                                                            
materialize.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly clarified  that his comments were directed toward the                                                            
authorization  of State matching grant  funds for Denali  Commission                                                            
projects  over which  the Legislature  has no  control, rather  than                                                            
federal matching  grant programs that the Legislature  has the right                                                            
to accept or reject.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Kelly stressed that  he does not  support the Legislature                                                             
developing the  habit of "using Denali Commission  funds to supplant                                                            
State general fund dollars."                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  acknowledged Co-Chair  Kelly's remarks that  Denali                                                            
Commission funds  should not be used to supplant State  general fund                                                            
dollars,  but reiterated that  the Denali  Commission is picking  up                                                            
expenses  for projects  in rural  Alaska  that the  State should  be                                                            
addressing  such as  health  care facilities  and  energy needs.  He                                                            
contended that  the State should participate in supporting  projects                                                            
that address  concerns of rural Alaskans  by providing the  required                                                            
ten percent matching grant funding.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Leman  voiced appreciation  for Senator Hoffman's  comments,                                                            
but countered  that the State has increased its investment  in rural                                                            
Alaska  by  supporting  such  projects  as the  village  safe  water                                                            
program, and by more than  doubling its investments into communities                                                            
by leveraging  federal  funds.  He acknowledged  that  the area  has                                                            
numerous  needs  and noted  that  the establishment  of  the  Denali                                                            
Commission  assists in addressing  those needs.  He echoed  Co-Chair                                                            
Kelly's  comments and opined  that if  "we as a  State are going  to                                                            
invest and match"  Denali Commission projects, then  the State needs                                                            
to have some participation in the process.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Kelly remarked that  Senator Hoffman  is not denying  that                                                            
the State  has been investing  in health and  energy needs  in rural                                                            
Alaska, but rather  that the Denali Commission is  providing funding                                                            
for projects  that Senator  Hoffman believes  the State should  have                                                            
been undertaking.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  asserted that if  the Legislature does not  support                                                            
some of  the "categories"  of projects  that  the Denali  Commission                                                            
identifies, then matching  funds for those projects could be denied;                                                            
however,  if the Legislature  agrees  that a project  falls into  an                                                            
area  that  needs  to be  addressed,  then  the  Legislature  should                                                            
support it.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Community Block Grants                                                                                                     
     $9,000,000 Fed Rcpts                                                                                                       
     Reference No.: 33488                                                                                                       
     Project Type: Health and Safety                                                                                            
     Category: Housing/Social Services                                                                                          
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2002 - 06/30/2004                                                                           
     The Block  Grant Programs receive federal funding  from several                                                            
     sources  in order to  provide grants  to local governments  and                                                            
     services to low income  people which will improve their quality                                                            
     of life and remove obstacles to self-sufficiency.                                                                          
     On-going project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bush explained  that these federally  funded community  services                                                            
block grants provide  funding for such things as food  and nutrition                                                            
programs, operating  and emergency funds for homeless  shelters, and                                                            
education opportunities.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Language  Section:  National  Petroleum Reserve  Alaska  Impact                                                            
     Program                                                                                                                    
     $1,680,000 Fed Rcpts                                                                                                       
     Reference No.: 35360                                                                                                       
     Project Type: Construction                                                                                                 
     Category: Development                                                                                                      
     Location: Barrow                                                                                                           
     Election District: Northwest Alaska                                                                                        
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2002 - 06/30/2004                                                                           
     Language:  The  amount  received   by  the National   Petroleum                                                            
     Reserve -  Alaska special revenue fund (AS 37.05.530)  under 42                                                            
     U.S.C.  6508  during  the fiscal  year  ending June  30,  2002,                                                            
     estimated  to  be  $1,728,015  is  appropriated   from  federal                                                            
     receipts   to  the   Department  of   Community  and   Economic                                                            
     Development  for  capital projects  grants  under the  National                                                            
     Petroleum Reserve - Alaska impact program.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Bush  informed  the  Committee  that  the  federal   government                                                            
established the  National Petroleum Reserve- Alaska  (NPR-A) special                                                            
revenue  fund to  assist in  alleviating  impacts from  oil and  gas                                                            
exploration and development.  He specified that in this process, the                                                            
Department receives  grant applications each fall,  then reviews and                                                            
submits  a  list of  projects  to  the Legislature  via  the  Senate                                                            
Finance Committee.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bush noted that the list is included in the backup material.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken  asked Co-Chair Donley  the amount of the  Power Cost                                                            
Equalization  (PCE) Program  funding shortfall  that is expected  in                                                            
FY02.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Donley  responded that the PCE shortfall  is expected to be                                                            
approximately $8.1 million  with $7 million of that amount resulting                                                            
from a downturn in PCE endowment fund earnings.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken reminded  the Committee that during discussions about                                                            
the establishment  of the PCE program, it was understood  that these                                                            
NPR-A funds would be available  to support the PCE program. He urged                                                            
the Committee  to  consider using  these  funds to  support the  PCE                                                            
program.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  disclosed that US Senator Ted Stevens  said "it was                                                            
never the intent  of Congress" that  the NPR-A funds be utilized  to                                                            
support the  PCE program. He shared  that Senator Stevens  supported                                                            
expending  these  funds to  assist in  alleviating  exploration  and                                                            
development impacts on communities.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wilken  asked  if  Senator  Hoffman  "would  reconcile  his                                                            
predecessor's  (Senator Al  Adams) agreement  with Senator  Stevens'                                                            
statement" as they are contrary to each other.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Donley   concurred  that  the  Committee  made   decisions                                                            
concerning  the PCE  program based  on comments  presented by  then-                                                            
Senator Al Adams the representative from State District T.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman, noting  that  he was not  a member  of the  Senate                                                            
Finance Committee at that  time, commented that he would confer with                                                            
former Committee  member Senator Al Adams to clarify  the context of                                                            
the discussions.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Leman reiterated  that during discussions about changing the                                                            
PCE program, Senator Adams,  a Finance Committee member at the time,                                                            
had specified  that  the NRP-A impact  funds would  be available  to                                                            
support the PCE program.  Senator Leman stressed that this assurance                                                            
was a crucial and important  element of determinations regarding the                                                            
direction of the PCE program.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Donley  informed   the   Committee   that  during   those                                                            
discussions,  Senator  Adam's  comments  that  the  NPR-A  community                                                            
impact  funds would  be available  to assist  the  PCE program,  had                                                            
persuaded  Committee  members to  halt consideration  of  amendments                                                            
that Co-Chair  Donley  had proposed  to reduce the  cost of  the PCE                                                            
program. He  continued that, "there  was a clear statement  from the                                                            
Co-Chair of the  Finance Committee at that time, that  without those                                                            
funds, there  was no deal,  there was no  agreement on any  specific                                                            
level of funding  for any future years,  and that in fact,  there is                                                            
no commitment  at all  for this  thing out there  because that  deal                                                            
never happened."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Donley stated  that the Committee might need to revisit the                                                            
amendments  that were not  considered "based  on the representation                                                             
that this money would be forthcoming."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman  voiced the  need  to revisit  the  intent of  that                                                            
discussion for  he recalled that the NPR-A funds might  be available                                                            
to  fund the  PCE program  that  "following  year" if  the  region's                                                            
communities  supported it.  He stated a  question remains  regarding                                                            
whether  those  funds  were  intended to  be  an  "on-going  revenue                                                            
source" for the program.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly  interjected that NPR-A funding of  the program never                                                            
occurred that following year.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  stated that part  of Senator Adams' commitment  was                                                            
to talk  with area  communities to  secure support  for using  NPR-A                                                            
community assistance funding to support the PCE program.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Donley responded  that,  "even if  that is  the case,  the                                                            
failure to obtain  those funds negates the rest of  the agreement at                                                            
that  time, as  there  was a  clear deferral  of  amendments,  which                                                            
should have  been necessary to make  it a self-sustaining  fund with                                                            
the endowment.  At the time, without  the NPR-A money, there  was no                                                            
way this was ever going to work."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Donley continued  that the cost of  the program should  be                                                            
reduced  to  fit within  the  earnings  of the  endowment  fund.  He                                                            
reminded the Committee  that the endowment fund had no earnings this                                                            
fiscal  year,  and  that  $7 million  must  be  withdrawn  from  the                                                            
endowment's  principle  to  cover  expenses.  He  stated  that  "the                                                            
program needs  to be re-analyzed,  revisited," and reformed  to live                                                            
within the endowment parameters.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly surmised  that the Committee ultimately must abide by                                                            
directives that are written in law regarding the PCE program.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  commented that,  "it is a  credit to this  Committee"                                                            
that numerous  communities have benefited  from the PCE program.  He                                                            
stated his research  supports the discussion that  the NPR-A funding                                                            
was to have been a one-time funding scenario.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bush informed the Committee  that the year in question was FY00,                                                            
and  that a  total of  $42 million  was  appropriated  to the  NPR-A                                                            
account.   He  stated  that   of  that  amount,   $28  million   was                                                            
appropriated to assist  communities; $9.1 million was deposited into                                                            
the PCE fund;  and as directed in  State statute, 25 percent  of the                                                            
unexpended monies  were deposited into the permanent  fund principal                                                            
and .5 percent was deposited into the Public School Trust fund.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
      Language Section: Trans-Alaska Pipeline Liability Fund                                                                    
     $2,150,000 Fed Rcpts                                                                                                       
     Reference No.: 34846                                                                                                       
     Project Type: Health and Safety                                                                                            
     Category: Health/Safety                                                                                                    
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2001 - 06/30/2004                                                                           
     Appropriation  of the  state's additional  rebate share  of the                                                            
     Trans-Alaska  Pipeline  Liability  Fund  to the  Alaska  Energy                                                            
     Authority  for use for the remediation of above-ground  storage                                                            
     tanks. Senate floor amendment #2.                                                                                          
     On-going project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
BOB POE, Executive Director,  Alaska Industrial Development & Export                                                            
Authority  and Alaska Energy  Authority, stated  this request  would                                                            
appropriate  federal funds to remediate  aboveground storage  tanks.                                                            
He noted the Alaska  Energy Authority (AEA) would  work closely with                                                            
Department of Environmental Conservation on this project.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Leman suggested  that the  term "rural"  be deleted  in the                                                            
backup information  on page 15, line  3, for while many of  the bulk                                                            
fuel tanks needing  remediation are located in rural  areas, federal                                                            
law does not require  that the funds be allocated  strictly to rural                                                            
areas.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Bulk Fuel Systems Upgrades                                                                                                 
     $1,600,000                                                                                                                 
          $800,000 AIDEA Div                                                                                                    
          $800,000 Oil/Haz Fd                                                                                                   
     Reference No.: 32584                                                                                                       
     Project Type: Health and Safety                                                                                            
     Category: Health/Safety                                                                                                    
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2002 - 06/30/2004                                                                           
     This appropriation is requested for expected Federal funds and                                                             
     state match for construction of new consolidated bulk fuel                                                                 
     tank systems in rural Alaska.                                                                                              
     On-going project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Poe stated  this  request involves  the  power  needs of  rural                                                            
Alaska,  specifically  for providing  bulk  fuel tank  upgrades.  He                                                            
addressed  Committee  concerns  about  funding  match requirements,                                                             
noting that the funding  for this project is a response to a general                                                            
request  from the  Denali Commission  to not  eliminate funding  for                                                            
projects  that the  Department has  historically  funded. He  stated                                                            
this request  would allow  the Department  to maintain a  consistent                                                            
program to address bulk fuel remediation.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Poe noted that the  amount of funding available from the Oil and                                                            
Hazardous Material Response Fund has decreased.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Donley asked the cause for that decrease.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Poe responded  there has been a downturn in oil  "flow" that has                                                            
reduced  the  money  deposited   into  the  fund.  He  reminded  the                                                            
Committee  that  a  five-cent  per  barrel  tax  is  levied  on  oil                                                            
production, of which three  cents is designated to fund the creation                                                            
of  a $50  million Response  Fund  and two  cents  is designated  to                                                            
develop an on-going spill program.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Donley  clarified that the two-cent program  is the funding                                                            
mechanism in this request.  He asked the Department whether a change                                                            
in State statute  would be required to increase the  amount of money                                                            
contributed into the Oil and Hazardous Material Response Fund.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Poe responded that it is specified in State statute.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Donley  asked if the reduction  in the amount of  available                                                            
Oil  and  Hazardous  Material  Response  funds has  resulted  in  an                                                            
increase  in the level of  general funds  requested in other  budget                                                            
requests.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Poe noted that during  original negotiations about this tax, oil                                                            
companies were concerned  that the $50 million response fund had not                                                            
been sufficiently funded,  and this concern presented a challenge to                                                            
the  five-cent  a  barrel  tax. He  stated  that  this  concern  was                                                            
addressed by  dividing the five-cent  tax; whereby, three  cents was                                                            
designated  to building  and maintaining  the  $50 million  response                                                            
fund pool  to address oil  spills and two  cents was designated  for                                                            
the Department  of  Environmental  Conservation  spill and  response                                                            
program and other programs.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Leman  clarified that  the provisions  of the five-cent  tax                                                            
specify that  two cents is designated  for the $50 million  fund and                                                            
three cents is designated for on-going projects.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Rural Power Systems Upgrades                                                                                               
     $500,000 general funds match                                                                                               
     Reference No.: 32588                                                                                                       
     Project Type: Construction                                                                                                 
     Category: Health/Safety                                                                                                    
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2002 - 06/30/2004                                                                           
     This appropriation  is requested for expected federal funds and                                                            
     state  match for capital  improvements  and new electric  power                                                            
     systems  in  rural  Alaska.   Where  required,  lack  of  state                                                            
     matching funds will prevent the federal contribution.                                                                      
     On-going project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Poe  pointed out that  the Denali Commission  has not  requested                                                            
the establishment  of  additional  matching grants,  but rather  has                                                            
requested that  state funding for on-going programs  not be reduced.                                                            
He informed  the Committee  that these projects  would result  in "a                                                            
real reduction in the cost  of power" by upgrading to more efficient                                                            
equipment  that would  increase the  number of  kilowatts hours  per                                                            
gallon  of  fuel.  He noted  that  all  the  projects  include  heat                                                            
recovery   systems  that   provide  additional   benefits  such   as                                                            
preventing water in the systems from freezing.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Ward,  referring to  page 20 of the  backup material,  noted                                                            
that community support is one of the components of a project.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Poe replied  that is correct,  and this support could  be in the                                                            
form of contributed land, equipment, or money.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Ward asked  what is the average level of community  support.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Poe  responded that  there is  no average  as community  support                                                            
varies from project to project.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Language Section: Electrical Emergencies                                                                                   
     $350,000 Rural Elec                                                                                                        
     Reference No.: 32590                                                                                                       
     Project Type: Health and Safety                                                                                            
     Category: Health/Safety                                                                                                    
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2002 - 06/30/2004                                                                           
     This  appropriation  is  requested  to provide  funds  for  the                                                            
     Electrical   Emergencies  Program,  which  provides   technical                                                            
     support  when  an electric  utility  has  lost the  ability  to                                                            
     generate  or transmit power to its customers  and the condition                                                            
     is  a  treat  to  life,  health,  and  property  in  the  rural                                                            
     community.                                                                                                                 
     On-going project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Poe  informed the Committee  that the  Rural Electric  Revolving                                                            
Loan  Fund is  supported  by  loan payments  generated  from  eleven                                                            
established  loans.  He  explained  this  funding  would  allow  the                                                            
Department  to assist  a rural  community in  re-establishing  power                                                            
when a power outage  threatens life, health and safety.  He stressed                                                            
that as a community's  dependence  on its infrastructure  increases,                                                            
the  community's  ability to  supply  uninterrupted  power is  "very                                                            
critical"  as loss of power,  especially in  the winter time,  would                                                            
adversely affect such utilities as community water systems.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Green asked  if  the State  should  produce  a report  that                                                            
includes  federal   funds  and  revolving   funds  that   "augments,                                                            
supplements,  and improves power"  provided to areas of Alaska  that                                                            
are  also supported  by  the  State  PCE program.  She  stated  that                                                            
compiling this information  would be helpful in determining the role                                                            
of the PCE program.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Poe  responded  that information   included  in an  annual  PCE                                                            
statistic report,  as well as the continuing development  of a rural                                                            
power energy plan, would  assist in providing pertinent information.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  remarked that "the Power Cost Equalization  program                                                            
is sort of  a misnomer" for while  it does reduce the cost  of power                                                            
in rural Alaska; it is  not lowered to a level of seven or ten cents                                                            
per kilowatt-hour.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Donley agreed,  "It is  a misnomer  because it  subsidizes                                                            
some people's rates below  what other people pay." He explained that                                                            
some communities  that do not qualify  for the PCE program  pay more                                                            
per kilowatt  hour than  the amount that  eligible communities  "get                                                            
subsidized down below."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SFC 02 # 20, Side A 10:43 AM                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Diesel Efficiency and Alternate Energy Program                                                                             
     $500,000 general funds match                                                                                               
     Reference No.: 32591                                                                                                       
     Project Type: Construction                                                                                                 
     Category: Health/Safety                                                                                                    
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2002 - 06/30/2004                                                                           
     This appropriation is requested for expected federal funds and                                                             
     state match for alternative energy projects (Fuel Efficiency                                                               
     Improvements, Conservation, Wind, Biomass).                                                                                
     On-going project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Poe  stated this general  fund request  would provide a  funding                                                            
match for federal funds  that would support the development of power                                                            
cost reduction programs.  He stated that these projects include such                                                            
things  as a combined  fish oil  and diesel fuel  plant in  Unalaska                                                            
where a combination of  50 percent diesel oil and 50 percent Pollock                                                            
fish oil is  being tested. He stated  this fuel would cost  72 cents                                                            
per gallon,  whereas currently,  fuel in Dutch  Harbor is $1.20  per                                                            
gallon of diesel. He expressed  that this study involves a substance                                                            
that  is environmentally   friendly, is  plentiful,  "but  is not  a                                                            
highly sought after commodity."  He noted that funding also supports                                                            
studies on such  alternate energy ideas as wind energy  in Kotzebue.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Kelly asked whether  Pollock oil  is preferred over  other                                                            
fish oils.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Poe  responded  that Pollock  oil is  being used  because it  is                                                            
abundant; however  any fish oil would  suffice. He stated  that test                                                            
results indicate  that engines  start easily  when fish oil  is used                                                            
and that the fish oil burns clean.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator Leman  recommended that this information be  supplied to the                                                            
Alaska Seafood Marketing Institute (ASMI).                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Federal Energy Projects                                                                                                    
     $30,000,000 Fed Rcpts                                                                                                      
     Reference No.: 36338                                                                                                       
     Project Type: Construction                                                                                                 
     Category: Health/Safety                                                                                                    
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2002 - 06/30/2004                                                                           
     AEA  expects to receive  approximately  $30 million in  federal                                                            
     financial  assistance awards  from the Denali Commission  in FY                                                            
     2003. The  Denali Commission awards cover several  AEA programs                                                            
     including  bulk fuel upgrades, rural power system  upgrades and                                                            
     alternative  energy projects;  therefore, AEA requests  receipt                                                            
      authority that is not specific to a particular program.                                                                   
     On-going project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Poe  stated  that this  request would  allow  the Department  to                                                            
receive Denali Commission  funds as well as federal funds that could                                                            
be used to  retrofit facilities including  the Healy Coal  Plant. He                                                            
stated that  funds would be received  on a project-by-project  basis                                                            
in a multiple-year program.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Poe  informed the Committee  that to  qualify for these  grants,                                                            
applicants  are  required  to submit  a business  plan  which  would                                                            
include a repair  and replacement fund for long-term  maintenance as                                                            
well as being  required to focus on  cost containment by  the use of                                                            
more  standardization  and other  measures  to reduce  the cost  per                                                            
kilowatt-hour or cost per  gallon. He noted that sustainability of a                                                            
project is a required goal.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  asked why  some components of  projects appear  to be                                                            
implemented out of sequence.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Poe responded that  if a component of a multi-phase project were                                                            
failing,  that component  would be  addressed  first, regardless  of                                                            
whether  it was scheduled  for repair  or replacement  early  in the                                                            
project. . He  noted that, in addition to the danger  of a component                                                            
failing, some  elements such as the foundation of  a powerhouse must                                                            
be  constructed  during  the  winter months.  He  stated  that  most                                                            
projects are two-year projects.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Arctic Winter Games Team Alaska                                                                                            
     $75,000 general funds                                                                                                      
     Reference No.: 6782                                                                                                        
     Project Type: Planning                                                                                                     
     Category: Development                                                                                                      
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2002 - 06/30/2004                                                                           
     This  grant will  provide, in  part, for the  expenses of  Team                                                            
     Alaska to participate  in the 2004 Arctic Winter Games, and the                                                            
     international dues payment.                                                                                                
     On-going project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bush stated this request  to fund dues and such things as travel                                                            
expenses for athletes to attend the 2004 Arctic Winter Games                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Delta Junction Missile Defense Test Bed Impact Mitigation                                                                  
     $10,000,000 Fed Rcpts                                                                                                      
     Reference No.: 35687                                                                                                       
     Project Type: Transitional                                                                                                 
     Category: Development                                                                                                      
     Location: Delta Junction                                                                                                   
     Election District: Delta, Prince William Sound                                                                             
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2002 - 06/30/2004                                                                           
     Fort  Greely has  been selected  as the national  site for  the                                                            
     Missile Defense Test  Bed Project. As a result of the five-year                                                            
     base  close/reuse  process,  the Delta  Junction  community  is                                                            
     unable  to provide the necessary  services for the anticipated                                                             
     impacts from the construction  of the Missile Test Bed project.                                                            
     This federal  grant will provide  funding for necessary  public                                                            
     facilities  such  as a  new area-wide  landfill;  firehall  and                                                            
     other public  safety construction, social service  programs and                                                            
     local   government  staffing,   not  only  available   for  the                                                            
     community, but Fort  Greely as well. Grant match from the state                                                            
     is currently not anticipated.                                                                                              
     One-time project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Bush noted that this  request consists entirely of federal funds                                                            
that would be  used to fund necessary public facilities  including a                                                            
new landfill and fire hall.  He expressed that there is currently an                                                            
inadequate level  of infrastructure available in these  communities.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly ordered the bill to be HELD in Committee.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Pete Kelly adjourned the meeting at 10:55 AM                                                                           

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